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	<title>Comments on: Kansas Bicycle Safety Law Proposal</title>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://www.kansascyclist.com/news/2009/05/kansas-bicycle-safety-law-proposal/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another problem we have in Wichita is that the bike path around Exploration Place apparently falls into some &quot;black hole&quot; as far as responsibility.  My husband and I were riding through there Memorial Day Weekend and were nearly hit by a CAR coming down an adjacent sidewalk.  Turned out that a car show was being set up in Exploration Place&#039;s parking lot and they decided to use the bike path as well.  No signs, barricades - nothing to warn the pedestrians or cyclists.  Apparently, it&#039;s all legal, too!  Since Exploration Place is county property, the City isn&#039;t responsible for the bike path/use thereof, so Exploration Place is off the hook for getting permits and, therefore, requirement to put up signs or barricades.  Just think - a cyclist or runner could be cruising down the path by the river - a car coming down the sidewalk hits and kills - and no laws were broken!

We might need a State law for this.  I don&#039;t know - I&#039;m lost.  But this is just plain WRONG!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another problem we have in Wichita is that the bike path around Exploration Place apparently falls into some &#8220;black hole&#8221; as far as responsibility.  My husband and I were riding through there Memorial Day Weekend and were nearly hit by a CAR coming down an adjacent sidewalk.  Turned out that a car show was being set up in Exploration Place&#8217;s parking lot and they decided to use the bike path as well.  No signs, barricades &#8211; nothing to warn the pedestrians or cyclists.  Apparently, it&#8217;s all legal, too!  Since Exploration Place is county property, the City isn&#8217;t responsible for the bike path/use thereof, so Exploration Place is off the hook for getting permits and, therefore, requirement to put up signs or barricades.  Just think &#8211; a cyclist or runner could be cruising down the path by the river &#8211; a car coming down the sidewalk hits and kills &#8211; and no laws were broken!</p>
<p>We might need a State law for this.  I don&#8217;t know &#8211; I&#8217;m lost.  But this is just plain WRONG!</p>
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		<title>By: b</title>
		<link>http://www.kansascyclist.com/news/2009/05/kansas-bicycle-safety-law-proposal/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Columbia, MO has passed an ordinance regarding road rage against cyclists, I think Kansas should have some stricter consequenses for cycling incidents, other than just fines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Columbia, MO has passed an ordinance regarding road rage against cyclists, I think Kansas should have some stricter consequenses for cycling incidents, other than just fines.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
		<link>http://www.kansascyclist.com/news/2009/05/kansas-bicycle-safety-law-proposal/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 22:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too would like Kansas to adopt the Idaho Biek Stop Law.  Many cyclists already do this, so why not make it legal.  That way, motorists won&#039;t be so upset if they happen to see a cyclist go past a stop sign without stopping.  That seems to be the main complaint I hear from motorists pertaining to obeying the law.

It would be nice also if cyclists could legally go through on a red light in certain situations.  For example, early in the morning when there is no car to trigger the light change.  I find it irrating if I have to get off my bike, walk over to push a button, then walk back to get into position to cross the road.  Either that or the city needs to install sensors that can tell if a bicycle is there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too would like Kansas to adopt the Idaho Biek Stop Law.  Many cyclists already do this, so why not make it legal.  That way, motorists won&#8217;t be so upset if they happen to see a cyclist go past a stop sign without stopping.  That seems to be the main complaint I hear from motorists pertaining to obeying the law.</p>
<p>It would be nice also if cyclists could legally go through on a red light in certain situations.  For example, early in the morning when there is no car to trigger the light change.  I find it irrating if I have to get off my bike, walk over to push a button, then walk back to get into position to cross the road.  Either that or the city needs to install sensors that can tell if a bicycle is there.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.kansascyclist.com/news/2009/05/kansas-bicycle-safety-law-proposal/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 20:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your proposed statutes are awsome!  I especially like the sentence that states that &quot;bicyclists may ride on the roadway when there is only an adjacent recreational bicycle path&quot;.  Bike paths that are adjacent to a roadway are one of the most dangerous places to ride, and yet current Kansas law dictates that we are legally required to ride there instead of on the roadway.  I also like that your statutes have penalties for violations.  With current Kansas law it&#039;s pretty much open season on hitting pedestrians or bicyclists.  Your proposed statutes would go a long way towards making drivers responsible for their actions.  I commend you for all your work and for trying to make Kansas a safer place to ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your proposed statutes are awsome!  I especially like the sentence that states that &#8220;bicyclists may ride on the roadway when there is only an adjacent recreational bicycle path&#8221;.  Bike paths that are adjacent to a roadway are one of the most dangerous places to ride, and yet current Kansas law dictates that we are legally required to ride there instead of on the roadway.  I also like that your statutes have penalties for violations.  With current Kansas law it&#8217;s pretty much open season on hitting pedestrians or bicyclists.  Your proposed statutes would go a long way towards making drivers responsible for their actions.  I commend you for all your work and for trying to make Kansas a safer place to ride.</p>
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		<title>By: b</title>
		<link>http://www.kansascyclist.com/news/2009/05/kansas-bicycle-safety-law-proposal/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 03:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan,

I am a new cyclist in KS, so I made it a point to read and study the current KS statutes and pamphlets. I am really glad to see someone has taken the initiative to put together a proposal, so kudos to you!

First, under the &#039;Safe Operating Distance&#039; section, I think the second paragraph is clearer than the first and could soley be used. I was surprised to see the 4&#039; spacing in the &#039;Safe Cycling for Bicyclists of All Ages&#039; brochure (in .pdf form) that is published by the KS Bureau of Traffic Safety, but not listed in the KS Statutes.  So I am glad to see you are including it in a proposed law.  I don&#039;t understand why it is in the KS Driving Handbook if it isn&#039;t a statute.

Second, what do you think of adding a statement regarding if there is a need to ride on the sidewalk, the cyclist must yield to pedestrians?

Third, penalties should include the cost of repairs to the bicycle if the motorist is found a fault. Have other states been successful in a misdemeanor penalty for violations of bicycling statutes?

Fourth and last...I agree with jdmitch, I like the rolling stop law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>I am a new cyclist in KS, so I made it a point to read and study the current KS statutes and pamphlets. I am really glad to see someone has taken the initiative to put together a proposal, so kudos to you!</p>
<p>First, under the &#8216;Safe Operating Distance&#8217; section, I think the second paragraph is clearer than the first and could soley be used. I was surprised to see the 4&#8242; spacing in the &#8216;Safe Cycling for Bicyclists of All Ages&#8217; brochure (in .pdf form) that is published by the KS Bureau of Traffic Safety, but not listed in the KS Statutes.  So I am glad to see you are including it in a proposed law.  I don&#8217;t understand why it is in the KS Driving Handbook if it isn&#8217;t a statute.</p>
<p>Second, what do you think of adding a statement regarding if there is a need to ride on the sidewalk, the cyclist must yield to pedestrians?</p>
<p>Third, penalties should include the cost of repairs to the bicycle if the motorist is found a fault. Have other states been successful in a misdemeanor penalty for violations of bicycling statutes?</p>
<p>Fourth and last&#8230;I agree with jdmitch, I like the rolling stop law.</p>
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		<title>By: jdmitch</title>
		<link>http://www.kansascyclist.com/news/2009/05/kansas-bicycle-safety-law-proposal/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>jdmitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - it would also be nice to get the Idaho Bike Stop Law worked in ( http://urbanvelo.org/bicycle-rolling-stop-animation-idaho-stop-law/ )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; it would also be nice to get the Idaho Bike Stop Law worked in ( <a href="http://urbanvelo.org/bicycle-rolling-stop-animation-idaho-stop-law/" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://urbanvelo.org/bicycle-rolling-stop-animation-idaho-stop-law/</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: jdmitch</title>
		<link>http://www.kansascyclist.com/news/2009/05/kansas-bicycle-safety-law-proposal/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>jdmitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 16:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan,

I like it. One suggestion though, if you can find the most recent driver&#039;s license examination form. The Kansas Driving Handbook ( http://www.ksrevenue.org/dmvdlhandbook.htm )actually states: &quot;When passing a bicyclist use extreme caution and pass four feet to the left of the bicyclist.&quot; Page 24, Bicycles. I know this because I was surprised that the answer was not 3&#039; when I recently renewed my license. Since the handbook already states 4&#039;... I&#039;d say that&#039;s what should be in the legislation proposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>I like it. One suggestion though, if you can find the most recent driver&#8217;s license examination form. The Kansas Driving Handbook ( <a href="http://www.ksrevenue.org/dmvdlhandbook.htm" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">http://www.ksrevenue.org/dmvdlhandbook.htm</a> )actually states: &#8220;When passing a bicyclist use extreme caution and pass four feet to the left of the bicyclist.&#8221; Page 24, Bicycles. I know this because I was surprised that the answer was not 3&#8242; when I recently renewed my license. Since the handbook already states 4&#8242;&#8230; I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s what should be in the legislation proposal.</p>
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